tv Politics and Public Policy Today CSPAN September 28, 2015 9:00am-11:01am EDT
triumph of showing how a private sector-led institution that has the government as an important advisory body but has a broader base of decision-making that's private-sector led including input from the technical community and civil society and the academics, et cetera, but that is advice that informs the policy and the board activities are anchored in the fact that governments are continuing to play an advisory role to what we do. >> tonight at 8:00 eastern and pacific on the communicators on c-span 2. we'll hear from president obama and president xi jinping later today when both address the u.n. general assembly in new york. president obama is scheduled to speak at 10:00 a.m. eastern, shortly after that president xi
speaks, followed by the leaders of russia, south korea and iran. we have it live on c-span. on friday, a retirement ceremony was held in honor of general martin dempsey, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. he retired after 41 years of service and will be succeeded by general joseph dunford of the marine corps, this is about an hour and 45 minutes. ladies and gentlemen please stand for the arrival of the official party and welcome
scott little. elements of the armed forces include the presidential escort platoon from the army's 3rd regiment, the old guard, led by captain michael brunmeyer. the next element on line is the united states marine honor guard led by captain jason rolls and the platoon sergeant leo gingras. the colors have always been one of the most important elements of a military unit at the center of our formation is an armed forces color guard bearing the national color and the service flags of the army, marine corps, navy, air force and coast guard. following is an element from the navy honor guard led by lieutenant william maston. the platoon petty officer is petty officer patrick sullivan. the next element on line is comprised of members from the united states air force honor guard led by first lieutenant kenda guzme. the flight's noncommissioned officer is tech sergeant michael marr. following is an element of the united states coast guard honor guard led by lieutenant junior grade edward gaylord and platoon petty officer is petty officer
mike kaiser. the last element on line dressed in the continental musicians uniform is the old guard fife and drum corps. during the american revolution musicians wore the reverse colors of their parent infantry unit. the men and women of the old guard drum corps maintain this tradition by wearing red coats instead of the infantry blue. it's led by drum major james hague. to the rear of our formation are the 56 state and territorial flags of the united states led by captain brendan wright and the platoon sergeant is sergeant 1st class joseph brown. to the right of the formation is the presidential salute gun battery led by staff sergeant ernie winsel. marching in on the joint staff is army captain alexander triplet, marine captain brian lander, navy lieutenant chris daly, air force captain conlotums and cory hoffman.
dawn's early light ♪ ♪ what so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming? ♪ ♪ whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight ♪ ♪ o'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming? ♪ ♪ and the rockets' red glare the bombs bursting in air ♪ ♪ gave proof through the night that our flag was still there ♪ ♪ oh, say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave ♪ ♪ o'er the land of the free
chiefs of staff, do solemnly swear that i will support and defend the constitution of the united states. >> that i will support and defend the constitution of the united states. >> against all enemies foreign and domestic. >> against all enemies, foreign and domestic. >> that i will bear true faith and allegiance to the same. and that i take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion. and that i will well and faithfully discharge the duties. of the office upon which i am about to enter. so help me god. >> so help me god. congratulations. >> thanks. [ applause ]
states army distinguished himself as chairman of the joint chiefs of staff from october 2011 to september 2015. throughout this period, general dempsey provided trusted and insightful guidance to the president, secretary of defense, national security council and other senior governmental leaders on a vast array of complex military and national security issues. he teamed with the joint chiefs to build a joint force with the right capabilities, capacity and readiness and with combatant commanders to protect our national security interests. general dempsey's wise counsel, unwavering integrity reflected great credit upon himself and were in keep with the highest traditions of the united states army and the department f defense. general dempsey is receiving the distinguished service medals of the army, navy, air force and coast guard.
[ applause ] at this time general dempsey's son major chris dempsey will read his father's retirement order. >> attention to orders. headquarters department of the army, order number 110-02 -- the following general officer is retired. dempsey, martin e., rank of general, signed mark a. millie, chief of staff, united states army. [ applause ]
>> ladies and gentlemen, please be seated. at this time, secretary carter is presenting the united states flag to general dempsey for his faithful service to his country. this flag was flown over the pentagon and arlington national cemetery in honor of his retirement and distinguished service to the nation. the distinguished public service award is being presented to deanie dempsey for distinguished
public service in the succession of voluntary initiatives to the service members and families of the united states armed forces from october 2011 to september 2015. during this period, mrs. deanie dempsey's patriotism and sincere personal involvement in the welfare of the members of the military community have earned her deep respect from all with whom she has come in contact. as a devoted ambassador of good will and a model example for the spouses of all soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen. she was an untiring advocate for the improvement of their quality of life. mrs. dempsey's presence on numerous trips to visit our stateside bases and overseas deployment areas served as a constant reminder of the steadfast commitment to our personnel and reflected her total devotion to the values we cherish within the military community. the distinctive accomplishes reflect great credit upon herself, the joint staff and department of defense and our nation.
[ applause ] the department of the army certificate of appreciation is also being presented to mrs. deanie dempsey on the occasion of the retirement of your spouse from the united states army. you have earned grateful appreciation for your unselfish, faithful and devoted service. your unfailing support and understanding helped make possible your spouse's lasting contribution to the nation. [ applause ]
the millions of men and women who make america's military the finest fighting force the world has ever known. [ applause ] president obama, so many distinguished guests and elected officials, your presence with us here today signifies the awesome responsibility reposed in the office of the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff which we're about to transfer from general marty dempsey to general joe dunford. the current chairman shares with me the duty to love and respect those who defend this country. to advise the commander in chief with candor, carry out his orders with excellence and share
just a bit of the enormous weight he bears. and to help this great nation to make a better world. marty dempsey was nominated to be chairman at the same time i was nominated to be deputy secretary of defense. he and deanie and stephanie and i sat down for dinner together and talked about what we wanted to accomplish and how we wanted to conduct ourselves. in him, i saw dedication to hard work, devotion to the force and the country and the civility to all that i hoped to have. marty had already shown all these traits and more for 37 long years of service. he had led the 1st armored
division during difficult days, returned to reconstitute the iraqi army, and had been chief of staff of the army. three and a half years later, i became secretary of defense, and once again turned to marty for inspiration and brotherhood. there's so much i could say about what marty has done to make sure tomorrow's force is as superb as today's to drive forward in new domains like cyber and space and to manage as well as possible through unconscionable budget turbulence. but since president obama is present, i would like to alight for a moment upon the benefit i immediately observed marty bringing to the president's decision-making. in the situation room, all listen attentively when marty offered his advice from the military leadership.
as a physicist by training, i'm partial to one way marty describes leadership. the challenge is not unlike principle, marty has often said. heisenberg's uncertainty. when you touch it, you change it. i'm not going to quibble with marty's physics here, but i'm certain he's exactly right about this. every decision the military leader makes, large or small, touches the lives of our troops. it touches the lives of countless families. it changes the nature of our world and the destiny of our country. for men and women who operate every day during time of rapid change and uncertainty, this is the constant weight and responsibility of leadership. in those counsels, marty dempsey speaks with the concision of the english student he once was and with a little bit of a sparkle
of the irish man he will always be. he lives by the words of his favorite irish poet yates that every trial endured and weathered in the right spirit makes a soul nobler and stronger than before. i'm confident in telling you, marty, you will be missed. marty has also said the best leaders make us want to be better versions of who we are. and, of course, we know one remarkable woman who has done that for marty and that's his wife deanie. so when marty heard, for example, "time" magazine named him one of the world's most influential people, it caught him by surprise. he said he didn't even know he was the most influential person in his family. marty and deanie make a wonderful team. over the years, no one has attended more memorials, wakes or weddings. for the dempseys there are truly no strangers in our military family.
to quote yates yet again, they are only friends they haven't yet. so deanie, we thank you for finding marty during your days at goshen high school and sharing with him the blessings of three children, all of whom answered the call to serve, and no fewer than nine grandchildren. an irishman indeed. now on to the other irishman joe dunford. since not a lot of you were able to be present yesterday at the marine barracks when we retired joe dunford from the job, every marine considers the best job in the military commandant of the marine corps, it bears repeating. but first, and foremost to ellen. ellen has been joe's rock-solid foundation for more than three decades. her support for military families and wounded warriors is
much more than dutiful. it's personal. the rest of joe's family, three children, joseph, pat and kathleen and parents mr. and mrs. dunford, have supported joe and ellen in providing that support. and i want to give ellen a special word of appreciation. and here's why. she was just settling in joyfully to her duties as the commandant's wife and enjoying having joe home from afghanistan when a different calling came. joe was the clear choice to be the president's next chairman of the joint chiefs, but he wasn't ellen's. ellen, thanks from all of us for going one more measure of devotion. now to why joe is the right man for the job. joe dunford is the kind of officer marines want to follow.
in the early years of the iraq war, joe commanded the 5th marine regiment. he refused armor inserts in his flak jacket until every marine was issued a pair. that story says more than any of us ever could about the character and leadership of this great man. humble, strong, centered. always faithful to his people and mission. wielding the operational acuity of a battle-hardened commander and the strategic wisdom of a statesman. we saw that clearly during joe's time leading u.s. and allied troops as the nato isaf commander. we saw his compassion in handwritten condolences sent to families of the fallen. we saw his tenacity in the way
he managed dealing with president karzai. and we saw his skillfulness in transitioning security responsibility to afghan forces. during that time, all that time, and over the past 14 years, in two complex all-consuming wars in iraq and afghanistan, our marines and all our service members performed spectacularly. today the marine corps is at the center of a great strategic transition in our military. emerging from 15 years of counterinsurgency and strength and presence to preparing for a full spectrum of threats where we remain overwhelmingly strong in posture and not only presence. in a way, that's what marines have always done. answering the call across the full range of military operations.
no one understands that better than joe. as the 19th chairman of the joint chiefs, joe answers the president's call. joe will provide him critical counsel and serve as a critical bridge between military and civilian leadership and also between two administrations. between 14 years of war at a time of strategic transition for our force. once again, we thank ellen and their family for sharing joe with our country. the chairman will soon change, but the quality of counsel they provide to the president and the caliber of their leadership will endure. the characteristics that marty and joe so excellently demonstrate. flexibility and creativity. the ability to act courageously and decisively. these are the attributes of our greatest leaders. these are the qualities they
share with our commander in chief. so as we say farewell to marty and welcome joe as chairman, we also thank the president for his leadership and constancy. for his deep commitment to the safety, welfare and dignity of our men and women in uniform. the example and commitment of these three leaders has indeed made each of us nobler and stronger. and because of their unwavering service to country and commitment to our military, our nation is nobler and stronger and will be forevermore. thank you. [ applause ]
>> ladies and gentlemen, president obama. [ applause ] >> 45 years ago, in june of 1970, a telegram arrived in upstate new york at the home of 18-year-old marty dempsey. congratulations, it read. you are appointed to the west point class of 1974. [ cheers ] marty was honored. he had just finished high school and he wasn't entirely sure he wanted to head off to the academy. his mother, i'm told, thought different.
she urged him to give it a try for the summer, which sounds like beast barracks meet sleepaway camp. sound advice with a little irish charm runs in the dempsey family. over the decades that followed, he patrolled the iron curtain, commanded the visions on desert battlefields and led america's soldiers. and more than a few times he burst into song. over these last four years, marty's wisdom, his vision and his character have helped lead the greatest fighting force the world has ever known. secretary carter, deputy
secretary, members of congress and the joint chiefs, service secretaries, men and women of the defense department, our armed forces and our military families. it is a deep honor to join you as we pay tribute to a singular leader for our military and nation and one of the finest men that i know, general martin dempsey. [ applause ] a little over four years ago i tapped marty to serve as chief of staff of the army. we let him enjoy it for one day. then i asked him to be chairman. so let me say, marty, and more importantly deanie, this time i
promise, no surprises tomorrow. i chose marty for these leadership roles because of his moral fiber and his deep commitment to american strength and american values. i chose him because of his vision for our military as a more versatile and responsive force. i chose him because he had the steady hand we needed in this moment of transition as we tackle emerging threats and support so many of our troops as they transition to civilian life. i've watched marty manage each of these challenges with integrity and foresight and care. perhaps most of all, i chose marty because he's a leader you can trust. marty, you've always given it to me straight. i can't tell you how much i've
appreciated your candor and your counsel. and i've seen you build that trust not just with me but across our military with our troops and their families, with congress and our allies abroad. and with the american people. today, thanks in no small measure to marty's leadership, america has reassured allies from europe to the asia pacific. we ended our combat mission in afghanistan and brought america's longest war to a responsible end. we forged new partnerships from south asia to meet terrorist threats. we built a coalition that's combating isil in iraq and syria. we have bolstered our cyberdefenses. we helped halt the spread of ebola in west africa.
none of this would have been possible without marty's guidance and leadership. and what makes it more remarkable is that he's guided our forces through a time of reckless budget cuts. in less than a week before congress needs to pass a budget to keep the government open, let me just say, now is not the time for games that lock in sequester. it's not good for our military readiness, it's not good for our troops, our family, and it's not good for our country. as commander in chief, i believe we should invest in america and in our national security and not short-change it. and yet, even in these tough fiscal times, marty has made sure we maintain our military superiority. and no one can match our services because no one can
match our service members. our sons and daughters who he's cared for like his own. in them he sees classmates of his youth. he sees those he commanded. he sees their families, and in them he sees his own. there's deenie, of course, marty's high school sweetheart, lifelong better half, whose grace and resilience and good cheer embodies the military's spouses she fights so fiercely for. chris, megan and caitlyn who followed in their father's footsteps to wear our nation's cloth. marty's mother, sara, who we thank for making him give the military a try for the summer.
and there are his nine grandchildren who we can be confident will mark this nation in so many positive ways in the future. on behalf of the american people, i want to thank the entire dempsey family for their service to our nation. now, marty would be the first to tell that you he couldn't have done his job without his outstanding vice chair. and i, too, have depended on the
advice and experience of admiral sandy winifeld. thank you, sandy, for your outstanding service. and general joe dunver, two of the most respected officers in our military, we have tested leaders ready to carry on marty and sandy's work. i could not be prouder of them and the service they've already rendered this great nation, and i could not be more confident in the advice and counsel that they'll provide me. thank you to them. thank you, ellen. thank you so much for everything that you've done. we're going to have a lot of work to do.
long after not just marty's gone but i'm gone from the stage. there are always new threats. there are always new challenges in this ever-changing world. we have to degrade and ultimately destroy isil, the remnants of al qaeda, terror networks around the world. we have to adapt our defenses for the 21st century. we have to give our troops the support they need to meet their missions. we have to make sure that our forces and our families receive the pay and the benefits and the quality of life that they have earned. that is how we maintain a military that is second to none. and i'm confident that we are up to the task. i'm told that on marty's desk there's a box. it's a cigar box with 132 cards. each one with the name, picture
and story of every one of the 132 soldiers who gave their lives under his command in iraq. and on top of the box are three words. "make it matter." make it matter. and every morning marty places three of those cards in his pocket so that every moment as chairman, every meeting, every trip, every decision, every troop review, every moment of every day, some of those fallen heroes are with him. those cards were with him a few years back when, for the first time as chairman, marty spoke to a group of military children who had lost a parent.
and that day as he walked through the crowd, with some 600 gold-star kids, young and so full of hope, he began to think about their lives and how each of them would have to make their way without a father or a mother. and marty had planned to speak, but he couldn't. so he did one of those things that he does best. he began to sing. and in that moment, the highest ranking military leader in our nation forged a bond with those children. boys and girls who at such a tender age had given up so much in a way that perhaps nobody else could. and year after year, they've invited him back because they know marty dempsey will always give them everything he has, his
voice but even more his full heart and soul. this is the man we honor today, a friend to so many troops and families across our military, a patriot with a profound love for our country and those who sacrifice for it, a trusted leader who in a time of great change made it matter. all the time. i am extraordinarily grateful to have had him by my side. through the bulk of my presidency, and i am extraordinarily proud to call him my friend. marty, for your lifetime of extraordinary service, you have the deepest thanks of a grateful nation. god bless you. and god bless our men and women in uniform.
>> good afternoon, distinguished guests, family and friends, once again, thank you for joining us today. mr. president, secretary carter, thank you for those kind words but more importantly, thank you for your leadership and for your trust in me and selecting me as your principal military adviser. before i begin, i'd like to once again draw your attention to the men and women in formation today. they not only look superb but as secretary carter said, they represent more than 2 million members of our total joint force. many of our soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines are forward deployed. some are in harm's way. and as we enjoy today's ceremony, i'd ask you to keep them and their families in your thoughts and prayers as well. in addition to the many special guests and senior officials who were mentioned by name as the ceremony began, i'd like to thank our family and friends for making the effort to join us.
i'm particularly appreciative that my brothers and their families are here along with ellen's sister, her brothers and their families. i'd also like to single out my mom and dad who are here. i became a marine because of my dad, and any success that i've had in uniform was a result of my mother's discipline and exacting standards. so mom and dad, thank you. more importantly, i want to recognize my wife, ellen, and our children, joseph, patrick and kathleen. without their love and support over these many years, i wouldn't be standing here today. and ellen, thanks for your willingness to continue to serve our men and women in uniform and their families. mr. president, i know i have big shoes to fill. we're all indebted to general marty dempsey for his extraordinary leadership, commitment and service. and on a personal note for many years, he's been a great friend, mentor and role model.
deenie has been with him every step of the way, and she's been a tireless advocate for military families even as she raised three soldiers of her own. the dempseys brought active duty today with well-earned admiration, appreciation and affection from all soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines to include the dunfords. thank you to those of you who have meant to those of us in uniform and our families. you are what winning looks like. it's a deep privilege to continue to continue that legacy. it's an honor to follow in the footsteps of mullen, pace, myers and the other distinguished chairmen who demonstrated leadership, extraordinary commitment and a strong moral compass. in the days ahead, i'll draw strength from their example. and i look forward to serving with my fellow joint chiefs, combat and commanders and other senior leaders in our government as we tackle the challenges on our watch. i see several chiefs of defense from around the world here
today. i look forward to working with you and further developing our relationships. it's customary for the incoming officer at events like this to be briefed. so i'll close by simply saying how humbled i am for the opportunity to represent our men and women in uniform. they are a true national treasure. my focus in the coming days will be to provide them with the leadership and the support that they deserve. god bless you all. and semper fidelis.
>> thanks, lizzie. being your friend and the lead vocalist of the taps kids will always be among my most cherished memories in my time as chairman. and by the way, for everybody here today, i want everybody to know that that's the first time the president ever made me cry. so unless you think we've had this kind of back-and-forth over the course of time, that's a first. and whoever had the over and under on how long it would take me to cry, it was when my son read my retirement order. so there you go. i think my classmates have probably had a few side bets going. let me begin by thanking everyone for their kind words and their recognition. to tell you the truth, it rubs a bit uncomfortably against my conviction that duty is its own reward and that those called to serve should seek no recognition for simply doing their duty. we all owe this great country our very best and our fellow citizens our very best. it was humbling to accept this
job four years ago. and it's humbling to relinquish it today. mr. president, thanks for being here and for allowing me to advise you. i've been honored to work with you on your national security team. i know this is a very busy and a very important week for you. but then again, they're all very busy and important weeks for the president of the united states. i also want to thank you in particular for allowing me to release my inner leprechaun from time to time during national security council meetings and importantly for allowing two dempseys into the situation room at the same time. i should have included this in my chairman's risk assessment. by the way, i hope you were able to get that good word in for me with the pope. i also want to thank the 22nd, the 23rd, the 24th, and the 25th secretaries of defense with whom i've served over the last five years. seriously?
i really do appreciate them for their service to the nation, for their support to men and women in uniform and their families and for teaming with the joint chiefs to protect this nation. you are all great patriots and p prodigious leaders. there is no way i can explain what the last 41 years have meant to me in the next four years and the next four years we'll be ably led by the 19th chairman. so i'll focus on the moment right here, right now, surrounded by so many family and friends. let me start by thanking the old guard, the joint honor guard and the great military bands assembled here. i have been and will continue to be your biggest fan and your strongest advocate. you remind us of our history, and you set the cadence of our march into the future. you are outstanding soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines and coast guardsmen serving right here in our nation's capital.
you inspire us. thank you for providing the images and the sounds that will ensure we will always remember this day. and ladies and gentlemen, please join me in thanking them. i note with great esteem the presence of our service chiefs, our combat and commanders, their senior enlisted advisors, the director of the joint staff, the chiefs of defense from some of our closest allies and as well closest allies and military leaders, few know the burdens you bear. willingly and even enthusiastically for our countries. deenie joins me in thanking you for your service and sacrifice and most of all for ensuring the readiness of the young men and women we send into harm's way in the name of freedom. i'm honored by the presence of civilian leaders from across our government, in particular i
thank my teammates from the department of defense, that serve as secretaries and the national security council staff. i will tell you that the glamour of working issues at this level wears off quickly. but i will always remember with fondness the camaraderie forged in the difficult work of national security. i also think you'd agree with me that the protocol team today has done an extraordinary job, as they do every day. they are quiet professionals whose lot in life means that they get only an "a" or an "f." well, mark this ceremony down as another "a." i wish i could introduce you to my personal staff. in a job like this at such a frenetic pace and with so much travel, we've become a family. deenie and i have said good-bye to them privately, but i will add one more thank you. you made me a better chairman and left an indelible mark on our hearts in the process. in the audience are friends from elementary school and high
school, the great west point class of 1974 pride of the corps. from the national war college and even from my capstone class, apparently i made the right decision when i decided no the to study too hard so i could make a lot of friends. i have both mentors and proteges here. as i've become older, i realize that the distinction between them blurs. we've learned from each other. i'll tell you this. deenie and i came into the military for each other, but we stayed in the military because of you. i admire you all. there are friends here from the storied fighting 69th new york army national guard and from usa basketball. stars from the worlds of entertainment and professional sports who have traveled with us around the world and superstars from the many private organizations dedicated to support our military, their families, the wounded, and our veterans. you've all touched our hearts,
filled our souls, inspired us, and made it an extraordinary four years. we are privileged to call you friends. another yates quote. think where man's glory most begins and ends and say my glory was i had such friends. i know in my heart that martin joseph dempsey, thomas joseph sullivan and bridget barber are all proudly looking down on us today. and they are probably up there whispering far too loudly for god's sake, i just hope he doesn't start singing. my mom is sitting right over there, thinking to herself, i told you so. if there's a more soft-spoken respectful humble woman on the face of the earth, i'd like to meet her. thanks for inspiring us to be humble, to always give just a little more than an honest day's work, to have courage and to live a life of faith. we love you, mom.
margegy sullivan is sitting at home in florida a little too frail to be with us here today, but she has been an unwavering champion and safety net on more than one occasion for our family throughout our career. we love you, too, mims. i have a big family. remember what i said about protocol earning their "a." kind and loving aunts and uncle, brothers and sisters, nieces and neef yews, inlaws and outlaws. know i haven't seen much of you, it's little we've changed. thanks for all the support. i said i wouldn't reminisce but i'm going to make one exception. at about this time in september 1974, i reported as a second lieutenant to the armor school at fort knox, kentucky. in preparing moe ining my remar
was struck by how much my emotions today remind me of my emotions then. in september 1974, just like today, i was a little nervous. i was humbled to wear the uniform of an army officer. i was eager to get started on a new career. and i was in love -- pardon me -- and i was in love with a girl named deenie. i fell in love with deenie when she was 15. it took her a few years to come around to the idea. but i was sure that whatever life brought my way, i wanted to experience it with her. here's the thing about deenie. she's the only one more passionate than me about military and their families. she's a better leader than i am. she has far more energy than einstein predicted could be packed into a 5'2" body.
and she has shown an amazing patience during the trials that accompany a military life. in every way, she's made me a better person. because this has been her career just as much as mine. it's fitting and proper to say that we are both retiring today. congratulations, deenie sullivan dempsey. so i'm almost out of water to choke back the emotion which means i must be near the end. what we're really doing today is transferring our passion for the standard u.s. army nine-man infantry squad to our own squad of nine adorable, talented and
exceptional grandchildren. they are, in order of seniority, kayla, mckenna, luke, alexander, hunter, finley, braden, samuel and david. now, if you want to know what our principal goal in retirement will be, it's to be the best grandparents we can be. now, lest they think we've forgotten them in the flesh of affection for our grandchildren, i should note that we love our own children and their spouses. they have served our country, too. deenie and i have made 20 moves, most of them with the kids, and they have been courageous, adaptive, resilient and willing to share their parents with a larger military family. it's been a joy watching them grow up, although until recently, we did have some difficulty convincing them that the mayflower wasn't a moving van. i'm very happy that the j-3 allowed my son chris to escape the national military command center to attend the ceremony. and as i said, megan and katie have also served.
as did shane who along with julie and corey formed the best trio of in-laws we could ever imagine. i know a little something about leadership, and you have it all as well as many other extraordinary qualities that make you great couples, great parents and great patriots. we very much enjoy your company. we look forward to seeing more of you. and we hope the feeling is mutual. who stands for freedom goes with joyful tread. joyce kilmer. it has been my honor to walk with joyful tread alongside soldiers, sailor, airmen, marines and coast guard as chairman for the past four years. they are truly the best in the world at what they do. they are our nation's most precious treasure. they and their families inspire us. today we entrust them to our new chairman. you may know that the irish are somewhat stingy with compliments and reserved in the use of adjectives. when irishmen truly respect someone, they say simply, you're a good man.
well, you're a good man, joe dunford. as i depart, i do so with great confidence that you and ellen are in the right place at the right time and at the right time for our nation. thanks to you both for taking on yet another challenging task for our nation. speaking of challenging tasks, there is a sense today that america's future is fraught with uncertainty and that the fabric that binds us is being mightily tested. however, i leave with tremendous optimism and absolute confidence in who we are and what we stand for. our nation and its armed forces remain the world's foremost symbols of strength, of hope, and of freedom. the generation that is now blessed to serve will do its duty and will ensure that our nation remains strong. i thank god for sustaining me for these 41 years, and i pray that he keeps us all strong. it has been my privilege to wear the cloth of our nation. to all who will continue to
♪ ♪ try to be a mother ♪ raise a daughter and a son ♪ be a lover to their father ♪ everything to everyone ♪ up and at 'em riding early ♪ all business in my suit ♪ dressed up for success from my head down to my boot s ♪ ♪ and i will always do my duty ♪ no matter what the price ♪ i've counted up the cost ♪ i know the sacrifice ♪ oh and i don't want to die for you ♪ ♪ but if diein''s asked of me ♪ well i'll bear that cross with
honor ♪ ♪ 'cause freedom don't come free ♪ ♪ i'm an american soldier ♪ an american ♪ my brothers and my sisters ♪ i will proudly take a stand ♪ when liberty's in jeopardy ♪ i will always do what's right ♪ ♪ i'm out here on the front line s ♪ ♪ american soldier ♪ i'm an american ♪ soldier ♪ i'm an american soldier
>> general dempsey and deenie just celebrated their 39th wedding anniversary. in their honor, we perform their wedding song, "close to you." ♪ ♪ why do birds suddenly appear ♪ every time you are near ♪ just like me ♪ they long to be ♪ close to you ♪ why do stars fall down from the sky ♪ ♪ every time urbi ♪ just like me ♪ they love to be close to you
♪ on the day that you were born the angels got together ♪ ♪ and decided to create a dream come true ♪ ♪ so they sprinkled dust in your hair and golden starlight in your eyes of blue ♪ ♪ that is why all the boys in town ♪ ♪ follow you all around ♪ just like me ♪ they love to be ♪ close to you >> it has been a journey of four decades for the general and deenie, a family first, then again, if you've served with them, you are part of their family.
this irish ballad titled "the voyage" puts it all in perspective. ♪ ♪ i am a sailor ♪ you're my first mate ♪ we signed on together ♪ we coupled our faith ♪ we hauled up our anchor ♪ determined not to fail ♪ for the hearts treasure ♪ together we set sail ♪ with no maps to guide us ♪ we steered our own course ♪ we rode out the storms when the winds were gale force ♪ ♪ we sat out the doldrums in patience and hope ♪
♪ working together we learned how to cope ♪ ♪ life is aíh7wb ocean ♪ love is a boat ♪ and in troubled waters ♪ we learned how to float ♪ when we started together ♪ it was just me and you ♪ now look around us ♪ we have our own crew ♪ together we're in this relationship ♪ ♪ we built it with care ♪ to last the whole trip ♪ our true destination's not marked on any charts ♪ ♪ we're navigating for the shores of the heart ♪ ♪ life is an ocean and love is a boat ♪
♪ and in troubled waters ♪ we learned how to float ♪ when we started the voyage ♪ there was just me and you ♪ now gathered round us ♪ we have our own crew >> it just wouldn't be a musical tribute to the blue-eyed 18th chairman without his favorite song. from the chairman of the board, old blue eyes himself, the great frank sinatra. we now perform "new york, new york."
♪ start spreadin' the news ♪ i am leaving today ♪ i want to be a part of it ♪ new york, new york ♪ these vagabond shoes ♪ they are longing to stray ♪ right through the very heart of it ♪ ♪ new york, new york ♪ i want to wake up in that city ♪ ♪ that never sleeps ♪ to find i'm "a," number one ♪ top of the list ♪ king of the hill ♪ a number one
bid farewell to the dempseys, we ask the chairman to assist us in singing "the parting glass." >> you know, anybody can sing that song with all those people standing behind you. all right, we'll get you out of the rain here in a second. give me the tune. ♪ of all of the money that eer i had ♪ ♪ i spent it in good company ♪ and all the harm that e'er i've done ♪ ♪ alas it was to none but me ♪ and all i've done for want of
♪ for all the comrades that e'er i had ♪ ♪ they're sorry for my going away ♪ ♪ and all the swememories that r i had ♪ ♪ they'd wish me one more day to stay ♪ ♪ but since it fell unto my lot ♪ ♪ that i should rise and you should not ♪ ♪ i'll gently rise and softly call ♪ ♪ good-bye and joy be to you l all ♪ ♪ the parting glass ♪ and drink a health whate'er bee falls ♪ ♪ and gently rise and softly call ♪ ♪ good-bye and joy be to you l
♪ ♪ in my mind i'm going to carolina ♪ ♪ can't you see the sunshine ♪ can't you just feel the moon shine ♪ ♪ ain't it just like a friend of mine ♪ ♪ hit me from behind ♪ 'cause i'm going to carolina in my mind ♪ ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, please remain in place for the departure of the official party. ♪ in my mind i'm going to carolina ♪
♪ can't you see the sunshine ♪ can't you just feel the moonshine ♪ ♪ ain't it just like a friend of mine to hit me from behind ♪ ♪ 'cause i'm going to carolina in my mind ♪ ♪ yes, i'm going to carolina in my mind ♪ >> all campaign long, c-span takes you on the road to the white house. unfiltered access to the candidates at town hall meetings, news conferences, rallies and speeches. we're taking your comments on twitter, facebook and by phone. and always, every campaign event we cover is available on our
website at cspan.org. >> today the house rules committee meets to determine the rules for florida debate of the women's public health and safety act. that's a bill scheduled to be taken up tomorrow that gives states more flexibility to deny medicaid contracts to health care providers involved with abortions. we'll have that markup meeting live starting at 5:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span 3. our road to the white house coverage continues today with republican presidential candidate donald trump. he holds a news conference where he's expected to outline his tax policy in more detail. we have live kovcoverage of tha from new york city at 11:00 a.m. eastern on c-span2. >> representatives devin muness and adam schiff both of california, the chair and ranking member of the house
intelligence committee are interviewed by "new york times" chief washington correspondent david sanger on their work writing legislation for and conducting oversight on the u.s. intelligence community. they're asked specifically about the nuclear agreement with iran, cybersecurity threats, and their committee's role in future u.s. intelligence efforts. this is about an hour. >> morning, everybody. welcome to day two. this morning we continue our examination of the state of the u.s. intelligence with a perspective from those who provide its oversight from congress. as you know, congress plays a critical role in ensuring the health and proper operation of
u.s. intelligence, primarily through its two oversight committees, the house permanent select committee on intelligence and the senate select committee on intelligence. we are pleased to have both chairmen, congressman devin nunez and the ranking minority member, congressman adam schiff with us this morning. they all represent the great state of california. they both represent the great state of california and have long and distinguished records of performing rigorous oversight of intelligence in the interest of its effectiveness, accountability and transparency. our distinguished panelists are joined by panel moderator david sanger, chief washington correspondent for "the new york times." david, we're thrilled to have you with us today also. and over to you. thanks. >> well, thank you very much, and thank you all for coming out at this early hour of the morning. i'm looking forward to what will be a conversation of just under an hour because both of our panelists have to get to what i
hope will be a pretty interesting open hearing on cyber that will have many of the leading intelligence agency heads, and i think including director of national intelligence, mr. clapper, who is here. general clapper who was here today. i thank you both. as you heard in the introduction, we're fortunate to have both devin nunez and adam schiff with us, proving that the only oversight of the intelligence community can be done from the left coast. that's the rule. i want to get to the question of how you assess the quality of the intelligence you're getting now with what will be, at the end of the week, 14 years since 9/11. so a great period of upheaval in the way that we both organize
the intelligence community and the way we assess information. but let me start with this. when you look around the world and you see the assessments that come into you, we're in an odd moment, a true post-post-cold war moment where the assessment about what the biggest threats the united states is facing differ considerably, if you look in the national threat assessment that you get each january, february, it's, for the past few years, said cyber is the biggest threat. if you look at what the pentagon would tell you, they would say a resurgent russia under putin is the biggest threat. if you look at the assessments that come from others who are more focused on the middle east, they would tell you the rise of isis is perhaps the biggest challenge that we face now, although not necessarily one that could reach the united
states. so i'd like to ask each of you to both tell us which of those you believe, but then more importantly, tell us what the fact that we're getting such a different . we try to first start out to be bipartisan. we can do that quite often, because it is behind closed doors. with he don't have a lot of the political banter that you withily see in public hearings that you see a lot of times on the other xhetties. the politics we try to check in at the door. because at the end of the day, this is one of the most important roles that we both play in this town and for the united states of america to try
to look over 17 agencies that is very difficult. mr. shif and i looked at this before we came on. we wanted to build on what our predecessors, chairman rogers and mr. rupersberger. we divided into four new subcommittees and tried to spread out the 17 different areas where we have jurisdiction to get our members more engaged. so we created, have had very active members on the nsa cybercommittee, for example. we have a defense and overhead architecture, emerging threats and cia. we try to divy it up by the workload. mr. shif and i will chair the big, important, maybe the first meeting of the week, usually and then we try to let the other committee chairman do the rest. there is just too much to cover. that's how we break it down and
how we view our role on oversight. i don't think you can actually rank getting to your second question. i don't really think you can rank. i look at these in kind of equal buckets that at times are always changing and at times are working together. i kind of see those buckets as you have the whole overarching cyberproblem. you have the russia problem, the china problem and what i call the jihad triangle, which is isis, al qaeda and iran. then you overarch it with the cyberproblem. at times, when you look at, who are the bad cyberactors? they happen to be russia, china, iran and some of the isil folks and the nuclear threat with north korea. >> if you live at sony, a cyberthreat.
>> that's true. finally, finishes, when people ask, how is the intelligence community? i think too many people expect the intelligence community to be fortunetellers. they think they are going to predict the future. we know that's hard to do. you hope to have really educated folks, educated members that can provide good education to our military, to our military planners, to our policy makers, both executive and legislative level. through that, so we know that change is always going to happen. new, bad things are always going to emerge. you hope that you have some education level amongst all the people that i just named. >> david, thank you. it is great to join you. it's very true we have strongly left coast domination of intelligence oversight with
chairman nunez, myself, senator feinstein. we don't know how richard burr got the job. as the chairman was mentioning, our committee tends to be very nonpartisan. that doesn't mean we don't have our differences. we do. it is a very collegiate environment. we work together well. we try to cordon off those areas where we know we are going to be in disagreement and agree to disagree without it being personal and focus on the bread and butter of our job where there are no party line differences. it is a wonderful retreat from the rest of the congressional committees. i would say a couple of things about the state of the i.c. part of it overseeing the i.c. we have gone through a period of tremendous growth and capabilities. technological advances made it possible to gather mountains of
information. as a result, we have seep a couple of phenomenon. one is that our public policy didn't always keep pace with the changes in technology. perhaps we didn't ask ourselves about things we could do or should do or what the implications of disclosure might mean. that environment has changed. there are new analyses in the post northern world where the expectation has turned on its head. the expectation now is this will be disclosed, leaked, whatever. that requires a whole new analysis of what will the implications of that be? what are the costs/benefits of any kind of intelligence gathering. the public policy debate has been struggling to keep up with the technological advances. we've also, i think, been trying to deal with the challenge of asimulation of great amounts of data, which is a different kind
of challenge than, perhaps, in the days gone by when the challenge was getting the information, not so much the asimulation of the information. i think our oversight is very functional in contrast to much of the congress. nonetheless, we are at a tremendous mismatch vis-a-vis the intelligence agencies. we are a small committee. we can't take our work home. we are still reliant to a large degree on the agencies telling us if there are problems. but, within those constraints, i think that the oversight mechanism is working and working reasonably well. in terms of the threats we face, i always find it interesting when people talk about cyberas the top threat we face, as if cyberis just floating out there unconnected to any particular actor. cyber, to me, is only relevant in the context of who is using the cyberweapon against us. as the chairman said, rush kra
is the most sophisticated actor. china is the most prolific. we have concerns about iran, north korea and the increasing democratization as other countries make use of it. it is very asymmetrical where a lot of the advantages are to those on offense. that provides a great challenge to the intelligence communities. as far as the nation state actors, the threat and nonnation state actors and what poses the greatest threat, i view it through the prism of what poses the threat of changing the a we live. when i look at isis, the threat from isis compared to the threat from all qaeda. i have historically been more worried about al qaeda, because of their capacity to launch major attacks, bring down our aircraft, the continuing attempt to do the spectacular attack.
that could have a transformative and negative impact on the country in a way that the one off isil model attacks will not be transformative. i have tended to worry more about al qaeda as that changes, as the core leadership becomes increasingly decimated and isil is increasingly on the rise. so, that for me, is changing. we may be getting to the point where isil has eclipsed al qaeda in my perspective as the predominant terrorist threat. russia presents a very real threat, a threat of a transformative impact on our country should they miscalculate and lead to warfare on the continent. you have the same risk, perhaps to a lessor degree by china with its aggressive action in the
south china sea. those are two of the main nation state actors we worry about. finally, iran, obviously, we'll be training a lot of our resources in the future on iran's compliance and noncompliance with a nuclear agreement. that will be enormously high priority. >> i want to leap on two things that you raised and get your views on both. one is a little bit procedural. we will move on to iran and some of the cyberissues. you mentioned at the outset that we work from an old assumption in the intelligence community, that most of what you dealt with would remain secret. if not for the entire 25 or 30-year period that you would see the bottom of a classification stamp. but at least for most of that. the dni just got around last night to declassifying=bmq
presidential daily briefs lyndon johnson received early in the vietnam war. that's the old model. the cia long went through a procedure of annual review at the white house that basically said, is this operation -- is the data we are getting out of this operation, this effort worth what we are dpeting if it got disclosed tomorrow morning on the front page of "the new york times" and "the washington post"? they went through that processest. what we learned during the snowden period is the nsa never went through that process until post snowden time. go one more beat about how that is changing, what you are seeing happen in the culture. is there an underlying assumption that even the deepest secrets may only have a shelf life o